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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:50 am    Post subject: B8: Hostage Reply with quote

I watched this again last night. The main flaw with this plot is by forcing Blake to come to X-Bar, Travis's plan has not a hope in hell of working. After all, by holding Blake's cousin Inga hostage all Travis is doing will antagonise Blake further.

If I'd been Travis I'd have just sent Blake a message saying "let's talk about pooling our resources - no pressure". That way Travis would stand a better chance of gaining Blake's confidence and thus access to the Liberator.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it is regarded as one of the duffers of the series -AND THAT IS WHY !
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BLAKESCREWE wrote:
Well it is regarded as one of the duffers of the series -AND THAT IS WHY !


How can you say that we have such great lines as "tell me the word, the word, THE Word, THE WORD...."

And Avon seeing a broken twig and knowing that Blake had just passed by that way.

And the rocks being rolled down the hill.

There is some classic BBC SF stuff here in the best tradition of Dr. Who I might add
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rojblake wrote:
How can you say that we have such great lines as "tell me the word, the word, THE Word, THE WORD...."


That must be the best line of the entire 52 episodes.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Travis is more `camp` than ever in this one !
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BLAKESCREWE wrote:
Travis is more `camp` than ever in this one !


It is all those Crimos running about in those masks, enough to turn any red blooded male "camp"
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turnidus wrote:
Rojblake wrote:
How can you say that we have such great lines as "tell me the word, the word, THE Word, THE WORD...."


That must be the best line of the entire 52 episodes.


Its a silly episode for the most part, but there are a number of classic Vila moments
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holding a family member hostage is not the ideal way to reach a negotiated settlement, but if Travis hadn't taken Inga hostage, surely Blake would have just ignored Travis - he had nothing Blake wanted.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that Blake would have probably just gone there out of curiousity.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes Blake's 7 simply descends into 1920s style 'peril', as seen in silent movies with the conveyer belt ricketting back and forth as our hero tries to save the damsel in distress. This is most explicit in 'Ultrworld' when Dayna tries to stop the conveyer belt sending Cally into 'the core' (maybe considering her lacklustre death on Terminal this may have been a more worthwhile death by the way, becoming part of an intergalactic encyclopedia!).............very keystone cops...........AND HERE IN HOSTAGE.....the 'villain' Travis locks the three heroes in the chamber and turns off the oxygen instead of just gunning them down! He could easily keep Vila alive and the shock of seeing Avon and Blake killed outright would make him talk faster surely!

You would think that Travis would just automatically fire at Blake as he does in 'Star One', but here we get melodrama and crimos and, oh, it's so bloody pointless an episode, personally I think more could have been made of the Travis-and-Blake-are-mutual-fugitives, like an episode having them forced to co-operate due to being trapped somewhere under the gun from the Feds, oh well, Sason two does drift off though doesn't it, most notably in my least fave, 'Gambit'.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I agree this is a poor episode. By taking hostages in the first place, Travis would make Blake suspicious.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stated that he knew it was liable to be a trap, anyway. Still, didn't know what Avon had done regarding telling about the wearabouts of Travis - did he and, wasn't to pleased when he found out. Wonder IF it was kinda poetic justice that Travis managed to shoot Avon in the arm in this episode!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ziggysawdust wrote:
Sometimes Blake's 7 simply descends into 1920s style 'peril', as seen in silent movies with the conveyer belt ricketting back and forth as our hero tries to save the damsel in distress. This is most explicit in 'Ultrworld' when Dayna tries to stop the conveyer belt sending Cally into 'the core' (maybe considering her lacklustre death on Terminal this may have been a more worthwhile death by the way, becoming part of an intergalactic encyclopedia!).............very keystone cops...........AND HERE IN HOSTAGE.....the 'villain' Travis locks the three heroes in the chamber and turns off the oxygen instead of just gunning them down! He could easily keep Vila alive and the shock of seeing Avon and Blake killed outright would make him talk faster surely!

You would think that Travis would just automatically fire at Blake as he does in 'Star One', but here we get melodrama and crimos and, oh, it's so bloody pointless an episode, personally I think more could have been made of the Travis-and-Blake-are-mutual-fugitives, like an episode having them forced to co-operate due to being trapped somewhere under the gun from the Feds, oh well, Sason two does drift off though doesn't it, most notably in my least fave, 'Gambit'.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno, Hostage is rather fun and certainly better than Alan Prior's other efforts for the season.

My favourite bit is when Blake and Ushton send the polystyrene... I mean rocks down the cliff and Travis and the crimos run away waving their hands in the air! I can almost hear terry jones and Graham Chapman shrieking "Run away! Run away!"
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is one the weaker outing for Travis 2. The design and direction a bit weak and the story never really seems to devellop into anything exciting.
Still, I think Molok is quite a cool henchman. He has a very evil looking face and a sinister voice. Shame he got killed in such a stupid way.
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