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Mr-Stabby



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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2004 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avon proved that he wasn't one for letting woman get in his way, so i honestly wonder why he just didn't ignore Jenna when she was saying not to leave Cygnus Alpha and just pilot the bloody ship out of there!
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2004 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr-Stabby wrote:
Avon proved that he wasn't one for letting woman get in his way, so i honestly wonder why he just didn't ignore Jenna when she was saying not to leave Cygnus Alpha and just pilot the bloody ship out of there!


At that point only Jenna knew how to pilot the ship. She taught the others later. Jenna was an experienced pilot and Avon wasn't. He still needed her.
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2004 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a vulnerability about Jenna
she was approachable and more La Femme
than the other females in the series
Would have been interesting for a development
between Avon and Jenna. Avon was handsome
but could not match Blakes status as sad eyed
victim who led the cause of Freedom,Liberty &
all that good stuff Avon had sharp edges and
Jenna would have softened them which was not in
the character profile...
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2004 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having only known Jenna for a small amount of time Avon could easily have killed her and taken the Liberator, leaving the others stranded.

Although there would not have been much of a series if this had happened it would not have been out of character for Avon.
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2004 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I said, he couldn't have killed Jenna because he needed her to fly the ship.
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2004 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zen could fly the ship under Avon's commands, he would have had absolute freedom and wealth beyond his dreams.
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2004 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At that point, Avon didn't know Zen could fly the ship under his commands. Besides which, as we later found, there were times when manual flying was necessary. It was only after Jenna taught them how to fly it that others had a go. They had just taken control of a massive and unusual ship. He would have been mad to get rid of the only experienced pilot they had.
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2004 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avon was a calculating individual, all he needed to do was instruct Zen to stop all communications then Blake and the others wouldn't have been able to contact them and he could have taken the ship.
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2004 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But Jenna would have known he'd done that. I don't think he would have wanted to make an enemy of Jenna when he still needed her.
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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2004 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I remember right Jenna had a conversation with Avon
concerning killing someone. He said he had never killed
anyone...Unless you want to contradict your original post
Steve saying the early Avon was different than the end
game one it is possible Avon was not capable of killing at
that point in time. Jenna was eye candy and Avon might
have wanted to sail away on a starry sea with Jenna as
he had wished to do with Anna. Ship's coup of treasure
would have allowed them a privileged lifestyle
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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2004 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took that conversation as them playing mind games with each other. They say:

JENNA Could you kill someone? Face to face I mean.
AVON I don't know. Could you?
JENNA There's one sure way of finding out.

The thing is, we now know Avon was lying from the conversation he had with Shrinker in Rumours of Death when we learnt that Avon had killed the man supplying him with exit visas, which obviously took place well before the converstaion with Jenna above.
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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2004 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't believe that Avon was mentally ill in S4 as some have proposed.

More likely he was suffering from Post-traumatic Stress Syndrome which is common after extreme situations. He lost the Liberator, Cally, (not to mention all the loot on Liberator), and then Servalan tells him Blake is dead.

That's pretty extreme stress.
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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2004 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, I feel that Avon felt a huge weight on his shoulders as he became the group figurehead, something he never wanted to do or felt right about doing.
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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2004 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here we go again! Avon shot in self defense
Was not premeditated. You have now gone
full circle and contradicted your first post...
It is so predictable that you will come back
and say you did not! This from a man who
hates babies and Avon. Ogliously rude words
thought but not spoken from Auntie's lips
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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2004 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In what way have I contradicted what I said in my first post? Genuinely confused.

And I don't hate Avon. I like Avon, he was one of the characters who made the show so entertaining.
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