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pickle · Joined: 31 May 2007 Posts: 619

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Cockroach Boy · Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:46 pm Post subject:

the masters of cheese · Joined: 25 May 2004 Posts: 3226 Location: round the bend

watched this this morning....soooooooooooooooo funny

id forgotten what a gem this ep is
i think travis as shivan is the funniest character in the whole series

with such lines as
IISSSSSSSSSS HEEEEE COME
and
DO U THIIIINK I HAAAVENT SMELT YOU OUT

Cockroach Boy · Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:15 am Post subject:

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Lucifer Sam · Joined: 25 Aug 2010 Posts: 42 Location: Helvetia

One of the weakest, worst-looking stories ever. (Apart, obviously, from Jenna's blue dress.)

BUT it has that scene in the empty conference centre, with Servalan's eye appearing on the screen. Fantastic, memorable, powerful TV that more than makes up for the 45 minutes' worth of silliness that preceded it
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SHARPBLUE · Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 2892 Location: Swindon

And Brian Croucher's acting is bad most of the time but this episode he is particularly rubbish.
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MagnusGreel · Joined: 30 Dec 2005 Posts: 55

It seemed like a good idea, handled very strangely. The crew seems to have it proven to them more than once that Blake's being controlled, then they go back to acting unsure, and end up going along with him. The whole plan has holes in it, but in the end, they just shrug and get on with it.

Perhaps that was the point. Maybe the idea behind this story was how easily seemingly capable people can be drawn into bad, disastrous plans, bit by bit, without realizing it until it's too late. That seems to be one theme we see in one form or another, throughout B7.

Part of it might be that however temporary and unimportant these Fed politicians might be to the viewer, who knows they'll be gone next week, in B7 they're powerful, well-known figures. Maybe that influenced even Avon to shut up about his concerns.

If Avon and Jenna over-rode Blake it might have completely alienated a crucial ally, I guess, since only Blake and his reputation seemed to matter to the politicians.

Yes, the indigo dress is very nice, and what I think of as the leather flight-suit is of course amazing, even though I hope it's some futuristic leather substitute... (though in B7's harsher future, who'd bother?) and the lapels somehow seem too present-day.

As for that backdrop on the surface of the asteroid, that's definitely the worst "effect" ever. It's so incredible, literally, that for some time I thought it couldn't possibly really have been meant to show the asteroid's surface. Maybe it's a painting someone did on the wall of the building, I thought. The painting's as bad as having the Liberator bouncing along on the end of a very visible string in a fan parody...

I don't think we have any genuinely bad episodes till early in s3, though. There are still ideas at work here, that bad plot points don't ruin. Episodes like this one are very flawed gems.

thunda · Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 977 Location: Kaldor City

I think the episode would have been better if instead of Travis posing as Shivan it was Dev Tarrant, only drawback is that Jenna and Avon wouldn't know him. Better yet, how about Raiker from Space Fall?