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Mary Lou Jensen

Joined: 27 Feb 2011 Posts: 480 Location: Bowels of a disused space station with Hudson (shoot me now!)
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:42 am Post subject: Pyleen 50 |
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Good idea or bad - do you think it carried the story forward or do you thik it cut down on the number of possible storylines? _________________
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white afro in space

Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Posts: 3283 Location: Afrovia
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:13 am Post subject: |
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I liked the idea of Pylene 50 but the makers of the show didn't use it to full potential. They could have encountered, for example, sympathetic leaders who were administering the stuff to their populations because they were told it was some sort of medical aid. Like a lot of things in B7, Pylene 50 was mainly a bit of a MaGuffin to get the characters through to the end of an episode. _________________ As I was saying, we all have to learn to live with disappointment |
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Mary Lou Jensen

Joined: 27 Feb 2011 Posts: 480 Location: Bowels of a disused space station with Hudson (shoot me now!)
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:40 am Post subject: |
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Now that's a good idea. I think the only problem I had with it was the fact that there was no antidote - I know that that was what they were hunting down and all that, but, I don't know. What would be the point of a totally unproductive population.....  _________________
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Futsie !PRINT!

Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 10733 Location: The Middle Lands
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think it was supposed to make them unproductive, just obedient... People on it were portrayed as rather zombified but as in Traitor, they were also happy to take orders.
I always took the esalator scene in Warlord to be showing that the Federation wanted its citizens to be characterless numbers who would conform without question, rather than showing they were paralysed zombies... A THX 1138 sorta situation maybe... _________________
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Mary Lou Jensen

Joined: 27 Feb 2011 Posts: 480 Location: Bowels of a disused space station with Hudson (shoot me now!)
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:39 am Post subject: |
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IN that case they needed to show a group of Pyleen-ed citizens actually working - maybe just a production line kind of thing where, when the crew try to talk to them, theyjust didn't react. That way they could be shown as being useful as well as zombified (what a great word.....I think I knew a few people like that ) _________________
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Janov Seldon

Joined: 16 May 2004 Posts: 1687 Location: There - but I like it here
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:22 am Post subject: |
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In many ways it's a bad thing, because IIRC it blocks the production of adrenalin. If everyone is on this stuff, where are the Military going to get their troops?
The Pacification Police must have an antidote or at least something that blocks it and I suspect that something similar has been issued to the regular troops. _________________ "Now then, Butch Harry, tell us about Fulham..." |
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Mary Lou Jensen

Joined: 27 Feb 2011 Posts: 480 Location: Bowels of a disused space station with Hudson (shoot me now!)
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:49 am Post subject: |
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Janov Seldon wrote: |
In many ways it's a bad thing, because IIRC it blocks the production of adrenalin. If everyone is on this stuff, where are the Military going to get their troops? |
Hear hear!
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The Pacification Police must have an antidote or at least something that blocks it and I suspect that something similar has been issued to the regular troops. |
Yeah but its stated on the show that there isn't anything, so that makes no sense at all does it. It was put through the air in the end wasn't it? Not like in the water or the food. _________________
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Janov Seldon

Joined: 16 May 2004 Posts: 1687 Location: There - but I like it here
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, Avon said it but his alliance of brigands already scared of the Federation encroaching on their territory. Was it really true?
If it was true, I'd suspect that it was used on border worlds that the Federation wanted to take quickly and that pacification drug might not have been Pylene 50. And if the drug is in the water and the air, then the troops would have to have immunisation. Territory already held would have been subjected to the medical laser as Helotrix was.
Anyway, Avon did have the anti-toxin - Forbus gave it to Tarrant and Dayna - he just didn't have the means to produce it, hence the alliance with Zukan.
I've thought about this a great deal - and forgotten quite a bit of it(!) - because it forms a major plot strand of my PGP. And especially the relationship between Space Command and the Pacification Police (or the more Orwellian PaciPol). _________________ "Now then, Butch Harry, tell us about Fulham..." |
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Mary Lou Jensen

Joined: 27 Feb 2011 Posts: 480 Location: Bowels of a disused space station with Hudson (shoot me now!)
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:35 am Post subject: |
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Hadn't Forbus only just come up with the anti-toxin though? _________________
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Janov Seldon

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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:31 am Post subject: |
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He'd developed Pylene 50 initially so he must have been able to come up with an anti-toxin to immunise the troops using it in case of accidents.
I've a feeling he'd made up that batch recently for just such an occasion. _________________ "Now then, Butch Harry, tell us about Fulham..." |
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Mary Lou Jensen

Joined: 27 Feb 2011 Posts: 480 Location: Bowels of a disused space station with Hudson (shoot me now!)
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Janov Seldon wrote: |
He'd developed Pylene 50 initially so he must have been able to come up with an anti-toxin to immunise the troops using it in case of accidents.
I've a feeling he'd made up that batch recently for just such an occasion. |
But in the show hadn't he only just come up with the anti-toxin - y' gonna make me watch it aren't you  _________________
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Ron

Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 3115 Location: A town, UK
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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Good idea, as having a nasty Federation drug is another reason to despise the Federation. In episode one of course there are supressants which are mabye the same. _________________ Last Watched: Seek, Locate and Destroy, 15/3/2018 |
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