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Which version of Battlestar Galatica is superior?

 
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Which version of Battlestar Galatica is superior? Old or new version?
Old version (Glen A. Larson's 1978 BSG)
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 28%  [ 4 ]
New version (Ron Moore's 2003 BSG)
71%
 71%  [ 10 ]
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:03 am    Post subject: Which version of Battlestar Galatica is superior? Reply with quote

I watched the original 1978 Battlestar Galatica (BSG from now on) series when it first aired on ABC as a little boy. I remember feeling excited as I tuned in and felt like a member of the Galatica crew, I thought it was as great as Star Wars. A couple of years later, I went to the FAO Schwartz toy store in New York City and visited an exhibit which contained a huge computer console, filled with switches, buttons, knobs, and flashing lights. Directly behind the console on the wall, revealed a wide screen displaying a slide show of Star Wars characters, and there were several posters of characters from BSG and Buck Rogers, couple with toys. The intention was to create the feeling of being on a spaceship, I believe. In any case, the whole exhibit was very cool.


After many years, I forgot about BSG, until the Sci-Fi Channel reaired BSG and Buck Rogers, where both shows actually helped launched the network. I began to rewatch all the episodes and couldn't help but laugh at the cheesiness and silliness of the show, when viewed through the eyes of an adult. Most of the episodes were poorly written, although the two-parter episodes were good and the acting was decent, considering what the actors were given to work with. In the pilot, "Saga of a Star World", there is a scene where the Galatica crew decide to head to the casino planet for a little R&R, right after their world has been destroyed! That doesn't sound very plausible from an objective point-of-view. And the fact that the aliens looked way too human made me cringe with embarrassment.


Now here enters neo-BSG. Well, I have to admit that the new version is far superior to the original in every way. It's dark, gritty, and suspenseful, everything that the original should have been from the get-go. In fact, BSG creator Glen A. Larson originally set out to make the show dark and gritty, unfortunately, he was unable to do so due to the network censors at the time. That being said, neo-BSG is closer to his original vision. Let's face it, if we were to experience the destruction of earth and were forced to look for another planet to live on, the last thing I would do is have a party and barbecue!


For those that complain that the new show is too bleak and pessimistic, well, it is to a point, but this new show also stresses that even in the darkest hour, hope prevails. The episode entitled, "33" where we first learned that hundreds more died, only to have a baby boy born at the end of the episode was very moving and hopeful. Let's not forget that other episode where Captain Apollo blew up the Cylon base and helped with the seizing of new fuel for the fleet. The characters are real and well-developed, although Starbuck gets on my nerves at times. Actress Katie Sackoff tries too hard to be tough that she sacrifices her femininity. Granted, it's a tough feat to do, but come on already! Just the same, it's refreshing to see a science fiction tv show that features real characters who have issues. Hell, who doesn't? Nonetheless, we have already begin to see her soft-side and she's just slowly becoming more interesting. Still, I don't like having to wait three to five years to flesh out a character like Starbuck because I think a character should be interesting and fascinating from the get-go. Aside from that, I have no other complains about neo-BSG.


In short, neo-BSG makes Larson's original baby look like crap. And for those purists who are waiting for a continuation movie of the original series to come to fruition, I got four words for you: it ain't gonna happen. I know that Larson has the movie rights, but if by some small remote chance manages to get it produced, the only chance it has is if it is a direct DVD release. Neo-BSG is THE version of Galatica that todays' audiences recognize. The fact that season three is on the way proves that the audiences enjoy the show and want it to go on and it will.


Long live neo-BSG!


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with you. It's amazing what we thought was super cool as little kids, really is quite cheezy looking at it through adult eyes. Is it really that cheezy, or did we unfortunately grow up?

I like the show because the characters are flawed, making them much more real - I also like the soap-opera like drama. Unfortunately science fiction purists don't like it because of the drama and the today-ish realism. Whatever - I'm not a purist.

What I do find most interesting is that people I know who don't usually watch science fiction are watching it and enjoying it. It's great to be able to talk about a TV show with other people who are not sci-fi geeks to begin with.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't think the original was that cheesy - but certainly with some episodes (the one with the castle filled with cylons, and the one with the two robots Hector and Vector ??) you couldn't work out whether the show was supposed to be aimed at children or adults.

Yes some of it is quite dated and silly (Some people think that about Blakes 7.), but when the show was good, it was very very good.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't seen the new series of BSG at all so I can't comment. I thought the original series was ok but nothing amazing.

If they ever show the new show on a station that I don't need a subscription for, I may watch it.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No question, the new show is superior in every way. That and Adult Swim cartoons are the only reason I still pay for cable. Not only is the new BSG better than the old, it's the best sci-fi TV since B5.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BlakNo1 wrote:
No question, the new show is superior in every way. That and Adult Swim cartoons are the only reason I still pay for cable. Not only is the new BSG better than the old, it's the best sci-fi TV since B5.



Agreed. It's right up there with B5, Farscape, Firefly, and of course, B7. And yes, Adult Swim is a hoot too!


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New Battlestar Galactica is really something extra special.

I really need to check out Firefly and Farscape which do seem to be often mentioned in the same breath.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

egrorian wrote:
New Battlestar Galactica is really something extra special.

I really need to check out Firefly and Farscape which do seem to be often mentioned in the same breath.


Yeah, people keep telling me that Firefly is the best thing since sliced bread. I d/l'd the pilot ep. I just hope it's better than freakin' Buffy.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah, people keep telling me that Firefly is the best thing since sliced bread. I d/l'd the pilot ep. I just hope it's better than freakin' Buffy
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LOL - yeah, me too! I could never get into Buffy or Angel....
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The very idea of Starbuck and Boomer being women........!!!! Please, I used to drool over these guys, it makes me go too all kinds of horrible places I just don't want to go!

And a Cylon with boobs........! I am right, right, she is a cylon
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's enough of a re-imagining that they're quite different characters really! Ok, female Starbuck is still a hotshot maverick pilot who smokes cigars and likes gambling but I think there the similarity ends...

I really like the the new series, it's up there (almost) with B7 and Babylon 5, except for the 4th and 5th (or 4.5) seasons where I think they literally lost the plot... Or maybe they kept the plot, but lost the characters - all the "deus ex machina" stuff where things happened just because it was destiny or divine influence or something took away the characters' free will in my opinion, and meant that they did things that were rather out of character just so the plot could go where it was supposed to. I can't help thinking the writers hadn't properly thought out how the story arcs were all going to tie up, and how it would affect the characterisation.

Or maybe I just prefer Babylon 5 which has the humanist conclusion that it's up to us to make the world, rather than the BsG religious one that there's some kind of supreme being pulling our strings... Ok, so Babylon 5 has its fair share of prophecy and destiny in the storyline, but then those things turned out to be explained in terms of people, not gods...

(Hmmm, or at least the "gods" in Babylon 5 were just other races who had evolved into higher beings, but turned out to be Greek myth style gods who could be just as flawed as the mortals they lorded over...)

But anyway, there were still plenty of good scenes in the final season of BsG... Jensen, from your comments it sounds like you haven't seen much of the new BsG, but I'd really really recommend it . Just watch the pilot movie/mini-series and I think that will give you a good indication whether you want to see more...

As for comparing it with the original BsG, I saw Dirk Benedict give a talk at an event a couple of years ago, and he said that he didn't like the re-imagined BsG coz it was all such a downer, and all the characters were miserable and unhappy and had serious issues etc , whereas the original BsG was just good entertainment. I can see his point, but then being a fan of B7 and the original series of Survivors, I don't mind TV drama being utterly bleak , and I think part of the point of the re-imagined BsG is to take the original premise that humanity has gone through a terrible holocaust, where their entire civilisation has been wiped out and only a tiny percentage of people have survived as refugees aboard a few ships, and realistically deal with the personal and social issues that come out of that... which aren't likely to be upbeat...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe I will at a later date, took me a while to watch other things because of the image it was giving out (sometimes adverts do shows and films NO justice at all).

Like Stargate - that turned out better than the film in the long run (well to a point anyway...then it kind of lost itself)

Alien Nation - apparently the series is more how the creator wanted the film to be

The new spin on original Trek - I was totally dreading that and its now one of my favourite of the films.

At the moment its the whole 'but WHY did the male characters suddenly have to be female characters and the cylon have to suddenly be a 7of9 clone' that's stopping me from watching it. I think if they had just kept the guys as guys and robots as robots and all that I wouldn't have such a hard time with the whole thing.

For me it would be like the Ham Tyler character in V to suddenly be a woman........he's not is he?

If BSG was a continuation of the original and these guys were not the same characters (okay they're not the same people - coz they're women, but they are the same characters because they have the same names) - ie Starbuck was Starbuck's daughter and Boomer was Bomer's daughter it wouldn't bother me.

I know I haven't seen it, and I might never see it BECAUSE of those specific changes. It's kind of like what white afro was saying in the Cally thread; for me they've been changed into women for the sake of being changed into 'hot chicks' - they've been objectified.
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